It wasn't even--forget it. [There's no winning this one. In the end, North asks a question and Sol debates an answer.]

You're not getting it. You can't ask the question of if someone murdered the victim because even if they didn't know it, it still happened. There was still some part of them, the person that they were before they were corrupted, that's still there and still acting on their thoughts.

So what's the truth? The physical, the subconscious, or both?